Saturday, November 30, 2013

Man, I have lots to catch up on...meanwhile, watch these!

Still have Supanova Brisbane pics and Australia team Squad training stuff to throw up here; running a bit behind on the blogging. Hope you're all well, mythical readers.

In the meantime, the Late Nite show's anniversary episode is up!
Nonsense, Soldier Legacy comics, SDCC, Oz Comic-Con,  Greg Capullo, World Taekwon-do Championships 2013 and other gibberish ensures (and apologies for the language ;P)

Cheers!


Friday, November 1, 2013

Ok, not comic book related: A Call to Arms: Squad training for 2014 Korea begins this Month!


Taekwon-do friends: Train hard, smart and aim to be competing for your country. Looking forward to seeing familiar faces, and perhaps the new breed of overseas fighters, breakers and proponents of the General's Art, down on my old "Base of Operation", the Central Coast NSW for a great weekend towards the end of November with Senior Master Jamie Moore, Head Coach Sabum Gary King (5th Degree), and some other experienced International Competitors who I believe might be making an appearance ;)

If you're keen to shoot for Korea next year (on an island no doubt...'Enter The Dragon', anyone?), I can assure you the other countries are squad training every weekend already. Hell, I hit the gym the day after the UK Worlds. Don't let our vast geography be a factor in your prep, and come have some fun with your TKD family ;D

I believe even if you're still "on the fence" towards making it over, join in and expand yourself physically and mentally. Gradings, Self Defense, fitness, self improvement...all these benefit from the specialist training, knowledge sharing, notion of competition, and learning from others outside your dojang/comfort zone. Be a sponge for knowledge, have a will of iron, and fists and feet of fury ;)

Taekwon,

Boosabum Paul Mason
Australian Competitor, Assistant/Sparring Coach, "Death Bringer" ;P


Worldwide Taekwon-do/Authentic Taekwon-do


Squad Training for Korea 2014

Senior Master Jamie Moore & Sabum Gary King are holding Squad Training in NSW at the WOY WOY Dojang weekend 30th November-1st December 2013.

Please contact Sabum Gary King on Mobile 0405134631




My stuff at 'Shadow of the Mouse' Art Exhibition, Royal Queensland Art Society Gallery.






Pre-lettered 'Human Fly' pages (with a dash of colour). 
Script by Tony Babinski for 'The New Adventures of the Human Fly #1'

Only part of the large space we took up for two weeks at the RQAS Gallery in Brisbane in Oct/Nov.
Many thanks to Griffith Film School/Queensland College of Art (of Griffith University) and The Royal Queensland Art Society Art Gallery at Petrie Terrace, Brisbane for hosting the 'Shadow of The Mouse' Art Exhibition. I was lucky enough as a seasonal lecturer and a post grad student to have been invited to throw my scribbling up on the walls among some really beautiful drawings, 3D imagery, watercolour, traditional colour work, inking, comic art and sculpture from professors, PhD, DVA, lecturers and seasonal lecturers in the realms of 2D/3D animation and illustration. Included in the exhibition were works from Hadieh Afshani, John Eyley, Darren Fisher, Carolyn Gardiner, Louise Harvey, Leila Honari, Kay Kane, Marianna Shek and Andi Spark.


'Maleficus Seven' concept art

The exhibition booklet contained a fantastic opening essay by curator Dr Peter Moyes, a switched on film and animation lecturer who was a great help to me during my honours year. 

Anyways, thanks also to these lovely people for their help and patience with my disasters in the leadup to getting my stuff on the walls. Black House Comic's Baden Kirgan did a great job on the prints (not all could fit on the walls, but I'll bring whatever didn't sell along to Supanova next week).

Below is the artist's statement I wrote for the booklet (cheers John for the great design too, and Louise & Marianna for a kick ass cover).
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“The assembly line method of producing comic books has nothing to do at all with the worth and value of the medium. Sequential art and film both run the gamut from the individual auteur to the collective communal effort. There may be questions about the artistic value and potential of monthly comic books but sequential art as a medium without any doubt deserves to be on the same level as all other art forms.”
- Klaus Janson- comic book illustrator, author and lecturer at the School of Visual arts (New York).

It’s funny that I think when I have to write an artist’s statement of my work, I feel the need to firstly defend my chosen practice to perhaps those that may not be familiar with the medium. But then again, most should be. Who didn’t read the comic strips in the newspaper as a child? Or comic books at home? Heck, Phantom comics were everywhere when I was a kid. Or to go a little further, are the cave paintings on the walls from the earliest human beings not a crude example of sequential art, or “stories told with pictures”? Or the engravings on the tombs of the Pharaohs in Egypt? Bayeux tapestry? Far smarter men like Will Eisner and Scott McCloud have written books about this, and I feel like I’m covering ground in a battle that has already been fought, and in many respects, won. We see comic book art in art museums across the globe. We see comic books and graphic novels in book stores, online stores and best seller lists. Maus won a Pulitzer Prize, Watchmen won a Hugo Award; awards not traditionally for comic books.  We see comic books inspiring multi-billion dollar films and franchises.

In Australia though, this big picture stuff may be known, but the work of the general day-to-day comic book artists and writers here, from professional to hobbyists, remains largely unknown; as comic book scholar Kevin Patrick rightly put it, comics are an “invisible art”. Even comic book readers here, the ‘Batman’ and ‘Spider-man’ comic devotees, will perhaps never pick up an Australian comic book. And yet, some of the best and hardworking artists and writers in the field are making inroads in the national and international scene. At a national level, it’s certainly a niche “cottage” industry here- and with the US comics being owned by multi-national entertainment conglomerates like Warner Bros. And Disney, spreading the “product” across TV, animation, video games and Hollywood films, Australian comics are indeed in the shadow of the mouse.  "

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Cheers All, and if you're in Brisbane next weekend for Supanova (7-9th November, RNA Showgrounds), I'll see you there :D First time in 6 months I'll have reprinted stock of 'The Soldier Legacy' trade paperbacks, issue 5, and Strange Tales #1, for those that give a damn. Oh, and the 2013 San Diego Comic-Con folio, which has Human Fly comic pages, and other pinup nonsense. Many thanks again to publisher Black House Comics for their tireless work in getting those books reprinted for any newbies keen to jump onboard with 'The Soldier'.

Friday, October 25, 2013

A John Romita 'Easter Egg' a.k.a: "Wow. Actually put something here related to research this year..."

So anyway, forcing myself to get some of my own work done for a change, rather than concentrating on keeping the bills at bay, the final couple of weeks of student assessments for my class (though that's looking like a full Sunday of marking before the massive assessments flood in next week), the art exhibition (which is thankfully sorted, and up in the gallery), trying in vain to stay in some sort of manageable shape for November squad training, and the slowly-churning, crawl-paced concept art for the other post-sdcc thing that's not contributing to this thesis due. But then, I get half a page into reading, and find a cool little point I wonder if others knew about. Enjoy :D 


Pouring through some of my research books and articles for my doctoral thesis, I came across a curious little throwaway comment in an 12 year old interview 'John Romita Sr. & Jr. and the art of Grace', with the aforementioned John Romita Snr and Jr., in the Twomorrows publication 'Comic Book Artist' #20, conducted by Jon B. Cooke and transcribed by Jon B. Knutson. 

It was something I'd never read before, or seen in other John Romita-focused books/interviews; On one hand it is not surprising, considering the little "easter egg" of sorts. On the other hand though, it came from a discussion on Jack Kirby, who Romita Snr. has brought up in many occasions when discussing as a colleague and inspiration of his. The point of Kirby asking Romita to leave Marvel with him to work on his "New Gods" line of titles for DC around '69/70 has been brought up in many texts too, so it's funny when I came across a little point that fell out of this line of questions. The questions were free flowing on the contributions the 60's "bullpen" contributed to American comic books (specifically, the superhero genre) and Lee and Kirby. The conversation moved to Kirby's relentless creativity, and the ideas that became overshadowed by the next idea, as Kirby never slowed down, never looked back, and kept churning out the new concepts. Discussion moved to the idea that the writer/editors that Kirby had worked with (Simon, and then Lee) were able to provide a "filter" for his concepts, particularly for the readers "…who needed to be fed Kirby less chaotically, more leisurely, so they could absorb this great material…"

This lead to touching on the growing disgruntle feelings Kirby developed towards Lee and Marvel that lead him to DC for 5 years, and the comment was made about Lee/Kirby's fantastic Four. 

Generally, it's noted that from towards the last half of their 102 + issue run on the touted comic series, Kirby's new characters and concepts somewhat halted, with the choices seeming to reuse villains and even plots homaging television shows at the time. There were hundreds of drawings and concepts that Kirby hoarded during his later years in Marvel which he ended up using at DC comics. This prompted Romita's throwaway comment that peaked my interest. 
Now, Romita was the Art Director at Marvel for years; starting as the guy that Lee called upon to make last minute changes to the artwork in the offices before going to print (while doing the art chores on Daredevil, and then the long celebrated run on 'The Amazing Spider-man', following the then-shock departure of the title by Spider-man co-creator Steve Ditko in '66),  and noted character designer for Marvel in the '70, designing the original look for such characters as the Len Wein-created/co-created Brother Voodoo, Wolverine and Gerry Conway's The Punisher. Romita was the "go-to artist" in this regard, much like Kirby was in the original Marvel comic hero conceptions (and many of Kirby's unused concepts were held onto until Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen/New Gods/Forever People/Mister Miracle were published, or in the 80's and 90's when Pacific Comics/Topps Comics were using Kirby concepts in Silver Starr  and Captain Victory and the Galactic Rangers.)*

Anyway, there's the long-winded context, here's the except:

CBA: It's Interesting how after a certain period, around Fantastic Four #65  or so, Jack stopped contributing original characters to Marvel and saved his New Gods to pitch at DC.

Senior: If anybody deserved to do that, it was him {Kirby}. I often had that attitude. I once created a line of characters for an abortive Australian series called Captain Australia. I designed the costume for the guy, for an Australian publisher, and Marie Severin, Herb Trimpe and I designed about a half-dozen villains. I created a character called 'The Black Swan', but I didn't include it in the presentation to this Australian, because it was too good and I kept it in my file…

Now, I have a feeling that this might be known among perhaps the older cartoonists as to who the publisher might have been (one who were perhaps doing the Marvel Comic reprints like Newton comics etc.), but it was the first I'd heard of it. 
It was particularly interesting for me, since the whole original conception for 'The Soldier Legacy' was to create an Australian action hero of sorts, since superhero-style comics on the "scene" are spotty, and few and far between. Since Marvel UK was able to foster burgeoning British creators with the Herb Trimpe-designed Captain Britain, I wonder what impact, if any, a Marvel-OZ could have had on the local scene and the creators that have worked overseas with "the Big Two" or beyond. Or, would it have even mattered? Given the history of Australian Comics, and the industry "death" in the 1950's by the lifting of the Wartime print import embargo, the smaller-than-the-US, location-diverse population and the cultural difference in our comic book consuming habits, it's very hard to say or speculate the impact of something that never happened. Perhaps some of those reasons (that all speak "no real market") is why it was aborted in the first place. Who knows.

It reminds me of the "Golden Age" Captain America Comics Australian Soldier character 'The Fighting Fool' used only once in 1942:

Marvel's Superhero Squad Cartoon had a token Captain Australia make an appearance in an episode; who knows if it's even based on anything that Romita created years before. 

Then again, that crazy guy uses the name. You know, that real-life vigilante in Brisbane…yep. Google him. I'm not even going to bother finding that website link.

Anyways, an interesting point to discuss in the context of a sub-thesis section of my overwhelming thesis. *sigh. Back to it, and marking Student assessments. The mountain awaits...


*As a side note, I always thought it interesting that 'New Gods' were born from the ideas that Kirby had for his original Thor run, in which he planned on the fabled "Ragnarok" or great battle where all the "Old Gods" died. (I vaguely remember reading this wasn't a popular idea; perhaps with Lee, Goodman? will have to re-research that little point, who probably hated the idea of killing off popular characters/series. And, something Kirby would encounter AGAIN with this idea when his original ending to The New Gods series The Hunger Dogs was vetoed by DC when he was able to come back and finish the series in the 80's).

Thursday, October 17, 2013

More Pics from 'Graphic', and pics from last week's 'Late Nite Show' appearance

Many thanks to Tim McEwen for the pics of the Len Wein 'Graphic' panel I was kindly asked to host recently at the Sydney Opera House early October. Again, very blown away by Mr Wein's friendly nature, great stories, and the professional and friendly staff of the event: 




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Many thanks to Late Nite Show Host Scott Black and the awesome and friendly cast and crew of Brisbane's 'The Late Nite Show' (shout outs Flash, Amanda, Kris and Biggy!) on 31 Digital for inviting me back to talk nonsense and bullsh**. Had an awesome time, and also great to meet comedian Jacob Lingard!

"On This Week: Comic Book Mastermind Paul Mason & Comedian Jacob Lingard

It’s our 5 year anniversary of The Late Nite Show AND Scott’s Birthday!  Join us for the big celebration as he welcomes back two of his favourite guests!  First up is comic book writer, artist and all around awesome dude Paul Mason (http://www.thesoldierlegacy.com, http://www.facebook.com/soldierlegacy, http://www.pm-comic.blogspot.com, http://pmason83.deviantart.com Twitter: @pmason83) as he comes on to talk about comic coventions, martial arts competitions, and being the said “dude.”
Also on is comedian Jacob Lingard (Twitter: @JacobLingard) to talk about his fantastic new room Fresh Meat (Click Here For Event Information) and to have a few laughs!"



(L to R) Jacob Lingard, Scott Black, Little James aka 'Flashman', me, Amanda Bacchi



And sadly...a meme was born :P (Thanks to "Number 1 'Soldier Legacy' fan' David A. 
Cheers my friend, you crazy bastard ;P)


Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Soldier Legacy/Human Fly comic images in 'Shadow of a Mouse' Art Exhibition

Beginning next week (and opening night on Thursday 24th October if you're in the area):


'Shadow of a Mouse' Art Exhibition at  the Royal Queensland Art Society Petrie Terrace Gallery.

As well as illustrations and sculpture from some very talented Animation/Film School post grad/lecturers, I'll have prints on display at A1 size- using original Comic illustrations featuring 'The Soldier Legacy', pages from 'The New Adventures of the Human Fly', and perhaps 1 or 2 concept art images from 'The Maleficus Seven'...depending on the room ;P

These will be 1 of only 1 A1 sized poster prints that I do plan to sell if anyone is actually interested. Will take photos and post online during the exhibition.

Gotta run. Cheers All.

Monday, October 7, 2013

'Graphic' with guest Len Wein: A Great day at the Sydney Opera House


Many thanks to the organisers, staff and support crew of 'Graphic' at the Sydney Opera House for their kindness, good nature and professionalism during last weekend's 'Graphic' festival. I had the great pleasure of being invited to research and chat with Comic book legend Len Wein (The co-creator of Wolverine, Swamp Thing, The new X-men, Marvel EIC, etc.)  on Saturday for his 'Creator Focus' panel. We managed to cover a wide range of his career in the hour, from Gold Key (Twilight Zone, Microbots, Star Trek), to Marvel, to DC, the crazy bullpen, Wolverine, X-Men, Swamp Thing, Jigsaw, Lucius Fox, that infamous pirate hat (;P), Watchmen, X-Men: Animated, and more...there was still a few questions I would have loved to have asked (and was able to chat and get some stories outside the panel that I was very appreciative of), but really, you could spend a whole hour just on Brother Voodoo alone. Apparently, I was able to cover a great deal more than most panels held in the past on his career, according to Len. I was very pleased with the feedback I received, and had a great time. It was great to hear a whole bunch of funny and interesting stories from the man himself, and many stories I didn't find during the research. A sneak peak into his methodology too, and if not for a combination of surprise Daylight savings changeover (we don't have that up here in Queensland...), and family commitments, I would have had a better chance of catching his Sunday appearances. Alas, it was not to be. But, happy for the time I was able to have at 'Graphic' on Saturday.

I won't bore folks with a tonne of badly taken International Fleet Review photos and fireworks (that was on in Sydney the same day; public transport and crowds throughout the city were as big as New Years Eve and the Sydney Olympics...nuts!), but there's a taste there too of the drinks night for the artists on the balcony of the Opera House, while the Navy ships and helicopters lit up the sky. Very cool! Overall, it was nice to be appreciated for the Doctoral studies in Comics; something different again from the Comic illustrating/Writing or Australian team Taekwon-do.

Anyways, gotta run, thank you for the pics taken during the panel. I completely forgot to palm the camera off to someone. 

Photos courtesy of Ian Browning
Some kids dressed as DC Comic characters ask Len Wein some last minute questions. We both agreed that it was awesome to see the next gen getting into comics. Very easy to forget, considering the output, that comics ARE for kids too ;P
Thank you for taking the photo Christine- Your husband is right: you do take good pictures (despite my terrible camera!). Lovely to meet you, and Angus.




Image by Prudence Uptonhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=740681185958735&set=a.740672382626282.1073741835.130801790280014&type=1&theater

Monday, September 30, 2013

A row of Soldiers.

Photo courtesy of Kaboom Comics, Toowoomba.
Proud stockists of Australian-made titles, Kaboom comics posted their current wall of comics, which kindly features and entire row (2nd from top) of my blood and sweat to date, in the papery form of 'The Soldier Legacy'. For their sake, I hope people buy it to alleviate the space for them. I'm a fan of comics being in reader's hands (if they choose it to be; and thank you by the way if you have), not gathering dust for the retailer. Cheers, Kaboom! Much appreciated.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kaboom-Comics/115137808869
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151669293083870&set=t.724342755&type=1&theater

I'm hoping to add to the titles seen here soon, but with the Human Fly commitments mid year, plus the Australian TKD team (recent UK commitments and new tenure as sparring coach for 2014), overseas and interstate work/commitment-heavy travel, my university lecturing commitments, my Doctoral Thesis due ASAP, other the creator-owned title in concept phase for that US thing we landed in SDCC, my commitment to Graphic at the Opera House, and the day job to keep the debt collectors away, I'm planning to take my time with the current Soldier output, before it all kills me, and I fail to reach any level of standard or quality just to reach an unrealistic deadline that doesn't have to exist.

I gotta go, I hope you are all fighting on with whatever makes you happy. Or, failing that, whatever you have to do to keep moving forward.
Cheers, Soldiers.

Friday, September 20, 2013

Sept Updates: BWF, Brisbane Supanova, ZICS, GRAPHIC! at Sydney Opera House, Geek Speak, The Comic Spot reviews...Phew!

Arrgh, too swamped to even make this one coherent. Will do my best:

Firstly, Brisbane Supanova have announced me as a Guest. Very proud, considering too, one of the first industry guys to ever give me feedback on my work (the original Soldier Legacy #1 pages) was John Higgins. A gentleman, we caught up recently at San Diego Comic-Con in July, and I'm honoured to be on the Guest list with him. His Razorjack series and Judge Dredd art is beautiful.
Tickets go onsale for Brisbane in November today I believe...hope to see you guys there?

http://www.supanova.com.au/guest/paul-mason/

Paul Mason Artis on The Soldier Legacy

And an article on the upcoming animation and comics guests for Brisbane and Adelaide:
http://www.supanova.com.au/news/comics-love-supanova/

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To my surprise, I had been remembered for my uni research topic- I'm studying a DVA (doctorate of Visual Arts), looking at comic books, creator methodology and superhero stuff (to be general, you can tell I'm in a hurry, can't you?) at QCA, Griffith University at Southbank. Anyways, next month, the organizers of GRAPHIC! at the Sydney Opera House, have kindly asked me to moderate a Focus Q & A panel with Will Eisner Comic Book Award Hall of Famer, Len Wein. Details below:
http://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/whatson/graphic13_creator_focus_len_wein.aspx


"A career-spanning insight into the works of this major force of comics who co-created Wolverine and Swamp Thing, revived The X-Men, and edited Watchmen.

Len Wein is a comic book legend: an industry veteran who has changed the face of not only comics, but pop-culture as we know it. A former Editor-In-Chief of Marvel, DC, Top Cow and Disney Comics, Len will now grace GRAPHIC to give audiences an intimate look into his innovative yet timeless approach to comic book storytelling.
 

The co-creator of iconic characters such as Wolverine and Swamp Thing, Len is celebrated for reviving The X-Men universe with mutant favourites including Nightcrawler, Storm, Colossus and Thunderbird. Writing for a breathtaking list of long-running titles such as The Hulk, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Thor, Green Lantern, Justice League of America and Superman... Len has also edited hundreds of comic books over the years, most notably Alan Moore & Dave Gibbon's game-changing masterpiece, Watchmen.
 
Combined with television plots for the likes of The Avengers, Batman, Transformers, Ben-10, The Super Hero Squad and Iron Man and his role in writing the Before Watchmen series, Len Wein has truly earned his place in The Will Eisner Comic Awards Hall of Fame. Now hear the master discuss his life's work in comics in an intimate solo session exclusive to GRAPHIC 2013.
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Saturday 5 October, 3.30pm

REVIEWS

'He has written the most important Marvel books not written by Stan Lee' - The Examiner
'One of the comic book world's best loved characters' - 
SMH
'The first time I fell in love with a writer was your run on Swamp Thing' - 
Neil Gaiman 
I'm very excited and looking forward to getting into prepping for this. As a big 'Wolverine' fan, it will be a thrill to pick this gentleman's brain for stories on his career, writing methodology, influences etc.
I'll be certain to keep my Wolverine and Hulk "fanboyness" to a minimum...

(Above) Being a jerk at Madam Tussards, London UK. Aug 2013
(Below Right) Being a jerk at Hot Topic, Horton Plaza, San Diego, USA July 2013
(Below Left) Being a jerk, Kmart, Woy Woy, Central Coast, Australia.  Sept 2013.
Sad...

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 Brisbane Writers Festival at the State Library of Queensland at the start of the month, with Zac Smith-Cameron, Me, Eddie Campbell and Dylan Horrocks (L to R) discussing Creator-Owned Comics (Moderated by Luke Humphris on far right). Loads of fun, an honour to share the stage and converse with these gents, great to sign a couple of Soldier Legacy comics after the show and chat.

Photo courtesy of the Brisbane Writers Festival facebook page :D
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Also, ZICS aka The Zine and Indy Comic Symposium was on at the Edge, (as was the above panel), where I got to meet a few cool Zine folks, comic folks, old friends and sell some Human Fly/Old Soldier Legacy books, and speak on a number of different panels; some of the most intellegent and challenging questions I've ever heard on a comic panel, and stoked to be a part of such a well run event. Check out pics and aftermath here: https://www.facebook.com/ZICSymposium

At ZICS, had a chat with Steve, Todd, Wade and Dan from 'Geek Speak TV' https://www.facebook.com/geekspeaktv Unsure if the interview will drop, but they're a lovely bunch of guys and always pleased with their support of the comics scene in this country. Here's a photo where I look like 'Simple Jack' ala 'Tropic Thunder'. Thanks for the mention and the kind words on the recent podcast too, gents :D (about 15:56 mins. in)

http://geekspeak.podbean.com/2013/09/09/geek-speak-live-64-zics-team-affleck-aussie-comics-getting-your-comic-into-shops-dc-talent-search-draw-harley-quinn-naked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+geekspeaklive+%28Geek+Speak%29


"You muh-muh-muh make me...hap-pee"
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The Comic Spot's John Retallick and Australian illustrator and comic book elder statesman Gary Chaloner review the first 3 issues of 'The Soldier Legacy', with some very kind words to say overall. (starts about 10:06 in)

Thank you gents, a nice surprise and much appreciated. Not *quite* right with the issue numbering etc. but I couldn't care less; it was a lovely surprise. I cringe looking at these older issues (and my early attempts at comics), so for someone to find something nice to say about them is always a plus ;D
itunes pic

http://thecomicspot.podomatic.com/entry/2013-09-19T20_43_15-07_00


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See you soon, Soldiers, and as always; thank you for your support. It means more than you know.

Drawing Superhero sketches and talking comics with the Irish ITF Taekwon-do Juniors during weigh-in for the Unified Taekwon-do Open World Championships at the Ramada Hotel in Hatfield, UK

Saturday, August 24, 2013

Just because we could.



Oh yeah, forgot about this. At Gold Coast Supanova in April 2013, fellow Comic Book guest and Black House Comics stablemate Jason Franks and I, were distracted by the fact that a Cardboard IronMan and two horses were singing 'Rammstein'...Chaos ensued.

About 1 min. in is precisely why I shouldn't be allowed out of the house without supervision.

Thanks to Soldier Legacy Facebook 'Liker' Brandon Quigley for the posting this. I laughed my head off. I needed it.